Saturday 27 October 2012

Sweet Thoughts

Good morning all!  A really simple card today to remind you not to forget to use your dies to simply emboss with.  They are absolutely stunning when used in this method.  I hear it time and time again from people that they have forgotten that they can do this!  This technique is especially effective when using detailed dies as it really shows them off.  I have used my Vintage Lace dies for it on today's card.  I used the large motif with one of the smaller dies inside of it.  Once embossed (using the tan mat and pink plate), I inked over the dies with Antique Linen to highlight the embossed areas.  I stamped my sentiment below the embossing and on the other side of the card.  I used a black rhinestone swirl as an accent between them.  For the card, I created a sort of petticoat using the krinkly kraft paper (aka twistwrap kraft paper).  I cut two strips of it and by running my thumb firmly across the edge, it creates a ruffle in the paper.  I  did not have to actually gather the paper to create the ruffle which makes it so easy to do. I used some Black Soot distress ink to distress the paper ever so slightly on the edges. I glued them to the bottom of my card with a slight offset to them.  I cut a Vintage Lace border in black and glued it across the top of my border.  I added some black rhinestones along the edge as accents.  I matted it in black and pierced the inner mat to finish my card.  It would be nice in other colours if you are not a lover of the earth tones like I am.  All for now, Sue x

168 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice one Sue. Like the petticoat frill and with the colours could easily be adapted without the swirl for a Man Card.
Missing you on C & C!!

'P' in Wales

Jane said...

like the frills I have some of this stuff not used it yet. Have to get to it today, have a man card to make today not my favourite past time can never find inspiration lol

Jane xx

Liz said...

Lovely card Sue, understated and classic

Patricia said...

Good Morning Sue,
Love it, that frill along the bottom is great. Suppose you could do that with Crepe Paper in Christmas colours, must give it a go.
Thanks for all the inspiration.
Have a Great Day

Patricia x

Rosie said...

What a good idea, Sue. I do forget to use my dies for embossing. Must try that again.

Pam said...

A lovely card Sue and shows the embossed die off so well. I like thepetticoat frill too.

auscrafts said...

lovely card ,like the frill

Karen R said...

Sue, you are so right and this shows how pretty a card can be simply embossed with the dies. In fact I am going to do this later today with my Christmas cards. Thank you for the reminder xx

Anonymous said...

GM Sue - nice but not a must try for me. Sorry. Have got lot of print offs in my pile from your blog which are must tries though! Gona try and do a few today as its v. cold here - definitely a day for crafting.
Rgs
Clare W

Heather T said...

Good morning Sue
I love the way you have used the Kraft paper as a frill I must try that. A tip I had from you was, when I am embossing this way, leave a die cut in the die so that there is less chance of cutting into the card.
Hugs x

Olga said...

So beautiful again! Love your borders!

Lin W said...

love the frill looks fab.
xxx

JAO said...

They just keep getting better.love the simplicity.

Hellma said...

Lovely card Sue, love that frill.

Caroline said...

Gorgeous card love the layout and all those dies are scrummy. Caroline xxx

Unknown said...

Morning Sue another great card i do like the iidea with the ruffles of paper. It looks so affective. I've only ever used my dies once to emboss with but it cut my card bt i will give it another go. But i do like this card it looks as though its took hours to do. Take care.


Debs Artliff

Maryann Laursen said...

WOOT WOOT this is so gorgeous Sur. I love the beautiful frill and this will be great for soo many different occasions.

Anonymous said...

Good Morning Sue. Love the petticoat frill and yes I do forget to use the dies just to emboss. That's todays task.

Anonymous said...

Good Morning Sue,
Earth tones are great, love this card, the kraft frill is lovely.
A very cold day here, today, off to work now, hope everyone going to Glasgow's show today wraps up warm. Have a great day Sue, and everyone else, happy crafting.
Michelle(happy2craft)

Joan D said...

Super card Sue.And yes, we do forget about the embossing side of the dies.Did this with the Christmas tree one, and will try this one now too.
Joan XX

Eemeli said...

That embossing look fabulous. And once again I can't help myself falling in love with the cas look on your card.

Hugs from Finland, Eemeli

Rose in Chester said...

Lovely card Sue. I'm still a bit weary about embossing but will leave card in the die before embossing and hope that this does the trick and not cut through.
I shall certainly persevere.
Hope the hurricane doesn't create too much havoc in your area
Have a great weekend with your mom and family.

Nanny Jo said...

lovely card, Sue. It looks very simple to do....must master the 'embossing with dies' technique!

jean.phillips1 said...

Morning Sue

Another stunning card. Love the frill round the bottom and do love your vintage lace dies and the way you have used them for embossing. It is a cold day here today with a flurry of snow so hope you are enjoying some nice sunshine! love Jean x

Lacelady said...

A timely reminder - I haven't tried embossing any of my dies yet, so I'll have to give it a go. The card could be adapted by using crepe paper in any colour, couldn't it. Thank you.

Patricia Howarth said...

Morning Sue, Wow, I love this card, like you, I love the earthtones, the embossing looks like a large flower on a stem of rhinestones, and the frilly 'skirt' at the bottom with the lace border is absolutely beautiful. I love it. I haven't tried this technique yet, will definitely be trying it soon.
It is really frosty in my 'neck of the woods' today, hope you are getting lots of sunshine in Florida with your Mum,
Lots of love from Patricia xx

Marleine said...

Morning Sue,
Love the card and the frills. What a great idea. Earth colours are so effective. X

marg said...

Hello Sue
Love this card and the colours,
The Petticoat is a good idea Sue makes a pretty addition to the bottom of the card. I will try the embossing now I have the GC! this will be easier on a larger area.... I hope!
Hope you're warmer than here, it is a bit nippy this morning!
LoveMarg

Marianne's Craftroom said...

Stunning effect with the embossing. Freezing outside here this weekend.

Marion said...

Hi Sue lovely card again.i really like the embossing ,i tried it but it cut so will have to try again.
Love Marion

BridgetCG said...

Hi Sue, another fabulous card, love the frills, have not used my crinkle paper yet. Saving it for some pointsettia's as per the ideas from 2 of my favourite ladies. Bx

maxine h said...

Hi Sue
Love the card as always. I too love earthtones, and no matter how many colourful cards I make I always end up going back to my naturals lol.
Big hugs
Maxine xxx

Sandra F said...

Another lovely card Sue. xx

Ecco of Sheffield said...

morning Sue
Thank you for the reminder and how to emboss using dies.
Today's card demonstrates this technique so well and so clearly.
I love the make up of the card and the colour wave is gorgeous.
Janet x

Ann said...



Hi Sue

lovely card thankyou for the reminder to emboss with our dies makes a lovely card.

Hugs Annx without an "e"

Crafty Lark said...

Love the extra use of the dies by just embossing, also love your earthy tones. xx Flora

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue, I hope you are having a lovely time with your Mum and family. There is a very cold wind blowing here at the moment. You are right about forgetting about embossing with the dies. The card is very pretty and I have now got some of the crinkle craft paper so another idea for its use thank you.

Edwina

lainey said...

a good reminder Sue, love the frills!! fab card. lainey x

Unknown said...

Morning Sue. Love the simplicity and the frills. Would look good in different colours for a masculine card. Love the embossed look! x

hotpotato said...

this is a different looking card.

alimecca said...

Hi Sue
Like the embossing - must try it with one left in the die because mine always seem to cut through the card. Quite like the frill too! Definitely a day for crafting - in the middle of a blizzard at the moment (& it's only October!!)

Donna Jones said...

Hi Sue, very pretty card, loving the petticoat frill.

Donna Jones

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue - could you remind us please of how to do this embossing and the necessary sandwich for the BigShot? I love the effect but can't work out how to achieve it. (I'm sure you must have explained it before I found your blog LOL!!!

gwen70 said...

Stunning card, I really must try this embossing technique

Unknown said...

Love the riffles and thanks for the reminder about embossing your dies. I always forget we can do this, you are quite right! Fab card as always. Maddy x

beachie said...

Hi Sue, I love earth colours so this card is perfect. That set of dies is a want for me as I love the border but never ever thought of doing a frill like that, stunning.
Audrey x

Joesgrandma said...

Just lovely Sue. Hope you are enjoying yourself XXX

HiggiSue said...

Love the concept but not keen on the ruffle today. Here's to a arty weekend....drawing but I may make a card or three.

Unknown said...

Morning Sue....Lovely card....I love the frill must get some of this paper. Another to add to the list...

Happy crafting
Chrissie x x x

nmty said...

hi Sue, beautiful card, and your are right, i never think of just embossing the dies, and i do love the ruffle petticoat at the bottom. as i don't have amy kraft paper i might give this a try with crepe paper.

Thanks for the ideas, i am currently stuck on a design for a birthday card for my crafty friend, so the techniques in this card may just fit the bill!

lv norma

Victoria said...

I had forgotten - thank you for the reminder Sue. It's very effective and I looks great with the Antique Linen.

Carol H said...

Love the card, never used my dies to just emboss must try it.

martine said...

Hi Sue, what a elegant card such different way to use the dies, just brilliant xxx
all the best Martine xxx

Maggie said...

Good morning. What a different card today. It's a technique that I forget as I'm so busy cutting with the dies. Will give it a go later on if the weather stays so blustery today. xx

Unknown said...

This is so pretty love the frills
Wendy

Christine said...

I prefer earth tones, so this is a no-brainer for me.
Thank you, Sue
Christine
x

nannapat said...

A lovely card Sue and a welcome reminder about embossing with dies. I still haven't tried it yet, so maybe will give it a go today Pat x

ellyscard creatief said...

Lovely card Sue.
Gr Elly ,Roemenie

Anonymous said...

Morning Sue

Another great card. Really like the frill and I have crepe paper in my stash so will use that :)

June x

Unknown said...

Good morning Sue love the card and the petticoat frill just finishes it off xx gail from Eatbourne

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue,
What a lovely card, love the earth tones and yes I often forget that my dies also emboss, this is a must try technique.
Love BrenLel

bluebell-flowerwood said...

hello sue, hope you are enjoying time with your family. whats the shoping like where you are. diffrent to us no dout. nice card today. am waiting for my nutral card to come. i can then realy get in the sue wilson zone with my cards. love bluebell-flowerwood.

hollyberry said...

Hi Sue
It may be simple but it is still beautiful as always.

nattyboots said...

Hi Sue

I have the Big Shot will embossing the dies work with this machine ? im not sure will have a play later today .

I like todays card and the swirl looks great ,but i would omit the frill ,sorry its just too fussy for me ,
but hey it wouldnt do for all of us to like the same .

Take care
Elaine H

lydia jordan said...

Hi Sue,
Beautiful, understated elegance. Love it, must try the embossing technique.
Have a good day.
Lydia
X

Rosemarie said...

Morning Sue, I think i NEED some of this krinkly kraft paper, what a lovely effect. There is a strange light in the sky here this morning, I think it might be the sun - probably wrong though!!! Have a good Saturday.

Love Rosemarie xx

Jackie D said...

Hi Sue

What an effective card.

love from Jackie D

salem said...

very elegant

Jess Watson said...

Morning Sue, lovely card, I have not embossed with my dies yet! Will certainly give it a try, this die reminds me of a poppy. Take care, Jess xx

Missmizog said...

Fantastic card Sue.
Sue

Sandybee said...

Another stunner Sue and the colours look good to me

xx Sandra

Tres said...

Hi Sue. I like everything about your card today except the kraft paper frills. I think they are horrible and do not go with the rest of the card. Sorry. It is only personal opinion though. The rest of the card is fine. I like your use of the vintage lace dies. Lots of love Tres x x x

EmmaT said...

Morning Sue, lovely card today, love the krinkly kraft petticoat. Hope you have a lovely weekend. Emma

JackieP said...

Hi Sue, Had forgottem I could just emboss with my dies, will be having a go shortly.

Jackie Calvert said...

I love this card, it may be simple to make, but still has the WOW factor
xx

ang said...

lovely card, must give the embossing trick a try, always a bit worried it will cut the card angxxxxx

Nanna Tina said...

Hi Sue
Another lovely card, I have had a go at using the dies for embossing but depending on what card I use sometimes it cuts through so I did leave a cut out inside as that can help.
Hope your weather is not as cold as here we had snow, hailstones, thunder and lightening and winds during the night and it is soooooo cold.
Happy crafting
Love Tina x

Anonymous said...

Absolutely stunning - you never cease to amaze me - hope you are having a good trip and your Mum is keeping in good health xx Gail xx

Maid of Kent said...

Hi Sue,
This is another beautiful card. Love the embossing must have a go. Could make the postage cheaper doing a flater
card. The petticoat frill is fab so different from what I normally do. Another must have a go. Love the earthy tones. The sun is trying to shine, but it is very cold here. Enjoy the sunshine where you are. Hugs Ann

Snuffy Snoo said...

Hi Sue, you are so right, it is easy to forget about straight forward embossing. The effects are so beautiful - I will give that a try. Love Sam xxx

Laura O said...

Beautiful card and we do forget to use the dies like this .love the frill.Laura O

hazel young said...

Lovely card Sue your die looks fab just embossed. love the colours xx hazel

yorkielass said...

Hello Sue, Love it, the petticoat idea is great, the frill is gorgeous. I do tend to overlook embossing only with the dies, will try in now, thanks for sharing.
Have a great day Sue, wrap up warm everyone.
Hugs June xxx

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue - have been away for a week and couldn't wait to get back and see your samples - all beautiful as usual. Love the embossing on this card and not tried this before so I will have a go. Hope you are getting some warmer weather in the States - it is a lovely sunny day here today, but oh so cold! Yvonnexx

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue,
Really really like the petticoat at the bottom and it appears so easy to do. Looks very effective.
Beverley W

Crafty Nanna said...

Really beautiful Sue and they look so different used in this way. I definitely have to have a go with the embossing only technique.

Have agreat day Lynn

Claveh said...

Lovely, these are my favourite colours and I just love this card. xxx

Yvette said...

a different and lovely way to use a die, makes for an understated and classy card, i like it lots

Unknown said...

Oh Sue! Today's card is lovely and you are so right I do forget to just emboss with the dies so thank you for reminding me. Very elegant and as someone has already said, understated.

Crafty Hugs
Heather Rogers xx

Unknown said...

Morning Sue, like this one different love the colours, i will try dies for just embossing never thought of it thanks, julie x

Julie Mac said...


Good morning from Bratislava!
I like the vintage lace dies, lovely card. Still struggling to copy your pierced effect, got a ruler with holes, a pokey tool and still fail - i'll keep trying! Julie x

Anthea said...

Good morning Sue ....just! Thank you for the reminder as I do forget that we can do this, I must have a go. Lovely card, love the colour combo. Hugs xx

Sue C said...

Absolutely love this card, simple but the frill makes it special xx

Fieldsend said...

Nice card Sue and love the frill.
Take care
Regards
June
xx

MARGARET said...

Hi Sue
Lovely card
Margaret L

MARGARET said...

Hi Sue
Lovely card
Margaret L

Anonymous said...

super card love the frill

lesley sinclair said...

Hi sue what a lovely card,I have never tried embossing using the dies must give it a go as looks very effective.the frill at the bottom is great I thought it was ribbon at first look!! Love lesley xx

Vick said...

Love it Sue, I bought loads of that crinkle paper from Sam and am enjoying experimenting with it to see what i can do, i love its texture, great colour combo!! Hugs, Vick xxx
www.the-artful-codger.blogspot.com
My YTChannels vixcrafts & saturatedcanary

ssn.wht@gmail.com said...

Really like the frill with the crepe material and the neutral colours that you have used for this card. Thanks Susan x

nzillingworth said...

Hi Sue
What a card reminds of a 1920's dress.I really like it. Smashing earth tones. I love the embossing and loads of fun where you can put it. Far more choice than a folder. Well done Sue great bit of work and would love to wear your 1920's style card.
Born again spellbinder
Nadine hug xxx
nzillingworth@hotmail.com

Helen said...

Lovely card. New to using dies so will give this a go perhaps later today.

evis said...

Hi Sue.
Love the card if not the colours ( I don't like black at all ). I will give the frill a go with some crepe paper as it does look the same as the frill on the card. Hope you are having a lovely time with your Mum.
Evis.

Helen said...

Lovely card. New to using dies so will give this a go perhaps later today.

Erica said...

Hi Sue,

Nice simple, clean card. Sometimes less is more!

Have fun with your mum.

Erica x

Sudha said...

Pretty sweet. Like the frill.

Sudha
sudha-kalra.blogspot.in

baconbits said...

Afternoon,
You are right sometimes its the simplest things that we forget to do that look amazing. Really like everything about this card.
TFS
Hugs
Amanda x

Ita said...

Hi Sue greetings from a very cold Ireland,love the card and yes I did forget that you can just emboss with the dies thanks I will give it a go,love the colour also
Smiles
Ita

SusanP, Kent said...

Hi Sue,
You're so right about using the dies to emboss only. I have to admit that I too quite often forget that these look so effective this way. The card is subtle, I love your vintage lace design and earth tones I'm just not sure about the ruffle on this one. Hmmmm?
I hope you're enjoying better weather where you are. Woke up this morning and thought I'd been transported to the Arctic Circle!
Climatic conditions conducive to creating Christmas cards maybe!
All the best,
Sue

sued99 said...

I love everything about thiss card especially the frill though.

Su said...

Thanks for the reminder of this Sue - must admit I do forget this is so pretty! Love the 'ruffle' on the bottom of the card too - this would work with metallic crepe paper as well.... righto off to have go!

melanie said...

Lovely card tried your xmas tree the other day didn`t come out as good as yours

Cazann49 said...

Hi Sue, I am one of those people who forget to use the Dies just for embossing!!So thanks for the reminder! I will have a look at the few dies I have and see which ones I can "Mix and Match!"..Thanks for your inspiration each day..and I love earth tones, so love this card..:)..Enjoy time with your family..xx

Jill Liddle said...

This is a very interesting card. To be honest, not sure I like the ruffle bits on it, but it is definitly "different".

Vie Carter said...

Love the card but not the colour

Lovely dies used

Vie
x

CraftyCarole said...

I just wish I had your ideas and inspirations, such gorgeous cards! xx

Marion Turner said...

Hi Sue
Lovely card like the embossing it looks so diferent.I love your vintage lace dies.
Love Marion x

Margaret corgi owner said...

Hi Sue
Really like this card looks really classy, except not too sure about the frill.
Margaret

Anonymous said...

Hi Sue!!
Loved yesterday's and today's cards!! They are beautiful!!! Hope you're having a great time with your Mom, and send her my love.
Anne with an E

Ladock girl said...

Beautiful card today Sue, love the simplicity of it. Linda xxx

sallysbitz2 said...

This is lovely, & you are so right... I forget to use mine to emboss, I don't think I ever have !!!!
I will now x

hugs sally x
sallysbitz.blogspot.co.uk

Marlene said...

Nice card must try the embosssing new to me love the frill

Sheila's little Haven said...

Lovely just lovely Sue. Hugs Sheila.

Anonymous said...

Forgot all about embossing only with the dies Sue-so thanks for reminding me. Love the card by the way.
Val C x

Jacqui aka Morgana said...

Lovely card yet again Sue and can be adapted to any colour combo although I love the white for the embossed part - the enbossing looks so clean.

Jacqui xx

Unknown said...

Love this card! Have never just embossed with my dies , must give it a try. I like the frill too I'm going to give this one a go today.
Sue x

Joanloum said...

Hi Sue
Love the card especially the frill.
Take care.Joan x

lilygee said...

That paper is amazing - I really thought it was ribbon - very nice card Sue
love lilygee xx

Unknown said...

I love this card! It's good that you remind us this option to use our dies to emboss with :)

Meg Owen said...

Different and very effective Sue.

Margaret O
xxx

brenda said...

Beautiful, have never used my dies to emboss, must try and remember. I also love the earth tones, so classy x

Gail said...

Earth tones are my colours, love the frill, in fact a brilliant card.
Hugs Gail C.

Lynda's craft's said...

Yes Sue i am one of those people that forget you can emboss the die's and your card today is simply lovely i love twistwrap kraft paper so effective hugs Lynda x

magpie said...

Hellooo Sue! Hope this finds you & your family ok & dandy xx I do love this card. The kraft paper petticoat frill is very effective. It reminds me so much of wood shavings when my dad got his plane out to make the wood smooth. It's really, really nice. I like the earth tones too & like 'P' in Wales has noted it can be adapted for a man without the swirl. "Thank you Sue" xx Love Karen xx

Anonymous said...

must try embossing like this- I never have tried it. As always lovely card Sue.

Unknown said...

Hi Sue, Another lovely card. I had never thought of just embossing with the dies, that is definately something I will be trying. Ellie xx

nancyd said...

Hi Sue, Love the dies embossed this
way especially the fancy ones not
to keen on the frill though but like the rest of the card. Nancyd xx

CraftyJo said...

Pretty card Sue, and yes - I can visualise it in many other colours too :) Not too keen on the petticoat business myself but can always use something else there. Thanks for the inpsiration.

Howdy said...

Earth tones rock!

Carol S. said...

Hi Sue, I am one of those who forgets to use the dies for embossing! That's why we need to visit your blog daily to be reminded of the different things we can do! Love this card for it's clean lines. Hugs, Carol S.xx

Linda Simpson said...

WOW Sue this is just fantastic. I love the die and the way the black swirls really emphasie the embossed die.

Hugs
Linda xxx

Sue Yorkshire said...

Stunning card xx

SUZYD said...

ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS CARD,LOVE THE FRILL.SUZYD X

Yorkie girl said...

Hi Sue
Love this card Sue never thought of using dies to just emboss
Theresa x

Janice K said...

Oh this is a lovely card Sue! It shows that simplicity can be very effective and I love the petticoat effect. x

Debby Berry said...

Great idea and reminder... Lovely card, thansk

vanessa said...

Hi Sue, nice card the frill is delightful, yes I am one of the ones who forgets to use the dies to just emboss, will give this a go looks great, take care vanessa xx

Unknown said...

Hello Sue

Another inspirational card. Must try to emboss with my dies more.

Diana

Sue Parish said...

Hi Sue,
I love the ruffles and I love your vintage lace dies with anything - so this is definitely one I will be trying.
Hope it's warmer where you are!
Sue xx

Unknown said...

beautiful card x

kimberley said...

Like the understatedness of this card Sue,hope you're having fun in the sun-the weather has turned pretty nasty here this afternoon although i had a nice day at the secc,take care,x.

Barbara said...

The embossing on this card is beautiful and its something I havent tried yet. Gorgeous card!!!

Abuzz With Creativity said...

Very simplistic today Sue. I like the embossing only tequnic but have found I've cut my card stock. The tip you gave before about leaving a cut peice in works better. I do want my krinckly Kraft paper to arrive soon so I can try some ideas. It's almost a month since I ordered it from your show on 30th Sept & my delivery came through all split with missing items. I shall be on the phone again this week as I'm gutted I don't have my A4 boards yet from the same order or my nutral card stock... Dieing to give those boards a go :-))). Hope the weather is much nicer where you are now? It's been bitterly cold all day here. Went to our towns carnival tonight & although we dressed really warmly, we still all were frozen once home!!! Claire xxx

trish from Wolverhampton xxx said...

love the crinkly petticoat look.

Fuchsia said...

Beautiful Card Sue
and yes I am guilty of forgetting to just emboss !!!

melody said...

Love the frill, very pretty card. Hugs Melody xXx

marg0006 said...

I like the flourished bling.

marg0006At verizon dot net

Unknown said...

Oh Sue

I REALLY LOVE this one. Everything about it - the frills just look so different and can imagine all the possibilities of using this on other cards. The flourish of gems is great - although a bit too elaborate for my pocket - but not too elborate for my taste - right on the nail! The corner die just being pressed into the card is a fab look.

Love
Paula x x x

Jean Johnston said...

Very timely reminder to emboss without cutting Sue. Certainly helps to keep the postage cost down but still looks so effective. Not too keen on the paper frill but the rest of the card is lovely.

fame01 said...

i love this card and the frills to i missed this post yesterday but better late than never i suppose was busy making a halloween costume for my grand daughter .. hugs sarah

Carole Z said...

Hi Sue, I've been away from blog land for a few days and now catching up! Gorgeous card, I really love the frills! Carole Z X

Debbie Tinks said...

nice card Sue

Unknown said...

I never thought of just embossing with a die its fab
sue x

jordiegirl said...

Must admit that I tend to forget that I can just emboss with the dies - must give this a try instead of always cutting them.

julie laz said...

hi lovely card xx

Kim Pritchard said...

Love this card. The frill along the bottom reminds me of crepe paper sprayed old gold. Reminds me of the vintage "Tinsel" I put on my Christmas Tree. And some Jeweller's wire and it would make a good Christmas decoration. Thanks for the idea.

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